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Thursday, February 27, 2014

The Crash That Changed the Laws

In headlines all across America.
23 Killed in School Bus Train Crash.  17 injured in Utah's Worst Traffic Tragedy.

Salt Lake City Dec. 1 1938
A Denver, Rio Grande and Western Railroad freight train traveling at almost a mile a minute through a snowstorm smashed into a school bus at a grade crossing near here today, killing 22 school children and the driver and injuring 17 other children, some critically.
  Not a single person of the 40 on the bus escaped injury of death in Utah's worst traffic tragedy.  The accident occurred at a crossing near Lampton, 15 miles south o Salt Lake City.
  The highway parallels the railroad ad then cuts across the tracks at this point.
  Harold Silcox, driver of the bus carrying the students to the Jordan high school, stopped his bus at the crossing and then went onto the tracks.
  The train, bearing down on him at 52 miles an hour, struck the bus in the center, crushed it and carried the wreckage several hundred feet.
  The bodies of some of the children were entangled in the running gear of the locomotive.  While the exact cause of the crash probably will never be know, it is likely that in the swirling snow Silcox had neither seen nor heard the approach of the west-bound freight.
  A dozen ambulances were summoned to carry the dead and the injured to the Salt Lake City General hospital.  It was here the full impact of the tragedy was felt as the parents and relatives of the children gathered to identify their dead and comfort their injured.  Some of the children were crushed so severely they
could not be identified and their names were obtained only by comparion of the school rolls and a check of those who started for classes.
  The arduous task of making a house-to-house canvass of this district will start tomorrow.  They said such a check was the only means of determining definitely the number and identification of the dead.
  Several of the children died en route to the hospital or after they reached there.
  Twenty other children, had been on the bus earlier in the morning, but a few minutes before the accident they had left the bus to enter the Riverton Junior high school.
  Rail officials, through W. E. Speakman, said they were confident the train crew was not responsible or the crash.
  They said the train's speed of 52 miles an hour was "normal" and the engineer sounded his whistle as he approached the crossing.  There was no obstruction at the crossing which would interfere with the driver's vision.
  The railroad officers said a formal investigation probably would start tomorrow.

Lawrence Journal world Dec. 1, 1938

Salt Lake City, Utah
A fast freight train "The Flying Ute"  crashed into a loaded school bus near here today, killing 26 and seriously injuring at least a dozen others.
  W. E. Speakman, . . . .said the 26 dead had been counted.  The bodies were taken to mortuaries thruout the city and attempts were being made to locate relatives to assist in identification.

Sarah Bergstrom, business superintendent of the Salt Lake General hospital, said she personally aided in the recovery of 18 bodies.  Estimates of the number of persons on the bus ranged from 40 to 60.
The crash occurred at Midvale, a small community about 10 miles south of Salt Lake City.  A snow storm that started during the night reduced visibility and made the highways slick.  The crash occurred at a rural grade crossing.  The students were enroute to their classes at Jordan high school.
  Salt Lake County Sheriff S. Grant Young ordered all deputies to the scene.

  Railroad officials said the train was an hour behind schedule because of the weather.
  Young said the frame of the bus was rammed underneath the engine and dragged down the track.  He said slowness in determining the number of dead resulted from difficulty in getting beneath the engine.
  "There probably are bodies lodged under their"  the sheriff said.
Doctors and Nurses from all surounding towns were recruited.
  Driver of the bus was Farrel Silcox.
At Salt Lake general hospital  Dr. Lionel W. Sorenson said seven of the 1 children taken there "are in an extremely critical condition."  The students ages ranged from 14 to 18 years.  Most of them are children of farmers.

 The accident occurred in a rural area over a mile from telephonic communication.  This made a quick survey of the death toll and injured list impossible.  All children taken to the hospital were reported unconscious but alive."
 It was the worst school bus tragedy in Utah history.
  The children were picked up by the bus at Bluffdale, Riverton, South Jordan, Crescent and Herriman, all small communities south of Salt Lake City.  Silcox was believed to have been unable to see the approaching train because of the sleet.  He was among the 1 injured taken to the hospital.  The cab of the bus was tossed to one side, about 100 feet from the crossing.  Bodies were strewn every where for a quarter of a mile down the track.
  "Grief stricken parents, hysterical and weeping, rushed frantically up and down the 85 car train, trying to find their children,  There were 12 ambulances at the scene an hour and a half after the tragedy."

Margie Groves, 16 year old unior student from South Jordan, described the crash"

"I got on the bus at 8:30 about two miles from the crossing.  I think there must have been about 40 others in the bus with me.
  "When we came to the crossing, we stopped and Mr. Silcox, the bus driver, started u again.  I was sitting in the very back in the center but I couldn't see much because of the snow.
I thought I heard someone yell 'train!' then I saw something black coming from the right and then it hit us.
When I woke up I was lying in the snow near the bus.  Two students I knew, Mack Bateman and Mabel Smith, were nearby Mabel was lying near the bus and Mack was lying by a fence.  I guess the;re all right now.
There was an awful lot of screaming and moaning.  They were all just kids 15-18 years of age.
  And then they came and brought me to the hospital."

  The hospital was jammed with parents father wept openly and mothers were screaming.  Attaches had to set aside a special room for person who fainted.  One entire floor of the hospital was filled with crash victims.

Last Dec. they remembered this crash that happened 75 years ago.  There are still people alive that remember that crash. Here are some links to more of the story.

A monument was erected to remember those who died in that Train VS Bus crash.


Thursday, February 20, 2014

Warning this one is really sad.

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Out of all the stories I've posted on this blog and put into my book "Death At The Station" this one actually got to me.   :-(    I can't imagine how the conductor felt for the rest of his life.   I'm sure it must have been terrible.
My question is where is the mother?  who let s a three year old play in the street?  I realize children can move very fast but they should have had some supervision.

The Daily Enquirer 1895-04-12 vol.11 No. 10  http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm/ref/collection/de2/id/105218

A tiny form, its face mangled beyond recognition, its arm crushed and the body filled with ghastly contusions, tells the story of three-year-old Leona B. Hilbert's tragic death yesterday afternoon, shortly before 5 o'clock, beneath the wheels of a car on the line of the West Side Rapid Transit Company.

Salt Lake Tribune 1895-04 -12

The accident by which the babe met her death was a heart rending one.  The car was returning from the southwest portion of the city, and had reached a stretch of First West between Fourth and Fifth South when the motorman T. C. Armstrong, who was also acting as conductor, and collecting fares with in, felt it going over some obstruction and stopping the car discovered the bleeding form of the child.  Life was extinct.
Coroner Offenbach was notified, and the remains were removed to the undertaking rooms of Joseph William Taylor. From the funeral chapel of which the interment will take place at 3 o'clock this afternoon.
  The particulars of the sad affair are quickly recited.  The ill-fated child had it is said, by those who witnessed the tragedy, been playing in the streets through the day, and had seated herself behind one of the telephone poles to tie her shoe, when the car approached.  She rose suddenly and had just started on her way when the car came tearing down upon her. dragging her under its wheels, and carrying her form some fifty yards.   The child was borne to the sidewalk where expressions of indignation that a company, holding a franchise under the city was allowed to operate without reference to the safety of human life.  The victim was the child of Leonard Hilbert trunk-maker, who resides at 430 South first West.

W.J. Armstrong, the motorman-conductor, when seen last night was greatly affected y the shocking affair.  He stated that he was obliged to collect tickets and attend to the motor and had gone back into the car to collect fares from some children who had got on at the Grant school.  Before leaving the platform he had looked ahead and with the  exception of an old woman on one side of the street, there was no one in sight on the entire block.  When he had collected the fares and was just about to return to the platform, the car struck some obstruction.  He did not realize what had happened, but stopped the car and upon looking back saw the body of the child lying on the track.  The two Hilbert children, boy and girl, he said had been in the habit of running across the tracks and getting too close to the car, he had repeatedly cautioned them against it.  The boy would frequently stand with his car against the trolley pole as the car approached ad yesterday morning the motorman had stopped the car and warned him against the danger.  Armstrong supposed the little girl was following the example of her brother and was standing behind the pole so that she was hid from view, as she was not in sight when he left the platform, and her body was found about six feet from the pole.  "The children are so thick on that street,"  said Armstrong, "that it takes all my time to watch the little ones from one end of the track to the other."

The company was in direct violation of the franchise by having only one man on the car. It was the only way they could stay in business.  The dangers had been explained to the company president but he stated there was nothing else they could do other than close down.

Salt Lake Tribune 1895-04-14 http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm/ref/collection/slt15/id/28132
Economy caused the death.  Why street cars were run by one man.
  Coroner Offenback's inquiry into the death of baby Leaona Hilbert, killed by a car on the line of the West Side Rapid Transit, was resumed yesterday and at 2 o'clock in the afternoon adjourned until 10 am Monday for the purpose of procuring additional evidence.
   Ali Sibley testified to having witnessed the accident, but was ignorant of the whereabouts of the motorman-conductor.
    Mrs. Mary Hilbert, the mother of the child, testified that Leona was pressing her ear to the pole and listening to the hissing of the currents when the crewless car bore down upon her.  The mother's testimony was frequently interrupted with her sobbings, and the situations were at times, pathetic.
W. J. Armstrong, who filled the double position of motorman and conductor, repeated the story recited by him to a Tribune reporter.  President Jacobs of the company had represented, he testified, that the earnings of the road would not justify the company in employing more that one man Witness had cautioned him of the dangers of "short help" but it was simply a question of operating the line in this way or suspending it altogether.
  He left the power on upon going into the car, as was customary, and, as near as he could judge it was then moving at a speed between six and eight miles an hour.

Salt Lake Tribune 1895-04-17  http://udn.lib.utah.edu/cdm/ref/collection/slt15/id/33675
Company Held responsible, Coroner's   verdict on the death of Leona Hilbert.

  The inquest upon the remains of Leona B. Hilbert, who met death under a West Side Rapid Transit street car, was concluded yesterday, the jury inding that it was due to the negligence o the company.  President Jacobs testiied that he was president of the company, but a year ago had turned the line over to Armstrong and his partner, since which time he had paid no attention.  There might have been he confessed something said about paying the men $1 a day if they failed to derive it from the earnings.
An action for damages is threatened.

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Saturday, February 15, 2014

Freaky Friday Story . . . a little late. So there are several stories.

Peter Otterson
American Eagle 07/22/1904
Became bewildered and sprang onto the track in front of a backing engine.
Peter Otterson, aged 58, died at 10:40 this morning at the Ogden General Hospital, from injuries sustained by being crushed beneath the under-workings of engine No. 581, in the railroad yards at 7:40 this morning.
 The deceased hadn’t been long in the country, having but recently arrived from Denmark.  This morning the old gentleman was walking along the railroad track near the Twenty Seventh street crossing.  He stopped, facing southward, to tie his shoe string which had become loose.  Switch engine 581 with Engineer Hestmark at the throttle, had just left the Union Depot going south.  When the engine neared the street crossing, Foreman Bradley of the train crew saw the old gentleman in the stooping posture and yelled to him to get out of the road.  Otterson must have become bewildered and lost his head, for he jumped right in the middle of the track in front of the approaching tender.  He was knocked down, and immediately the engineer reversed his engine, but before he could stop it the tender and half of the engine had passed over the man.  The injured man was pulled out from under the engine and it was ascertained he hadn’t been touched by the wheels at all. The injuries which cause his death were the result of being crushed by the fire box and other low projecting parts of the engine and tender.  As soon as possible after being taken from under the engine, the injured man was taken to the hospital, where after suffering much pain from the internal injuries received, he passed away at 10:40 o’clock this morning.
 The switching crew of engine No 581 Is made up of Engineer Hestmark,  Fireman Murphy, Foreman Bradley,  Helpers Poorman and Baxter.
  The family of the deceased  lives at no 164 Twenty-Sixth Street.

                                                                                   Joseph Frew

Davis County Clipper 11/18/1904
Joseph Frew of Syracuse, Brother to County Commissioner William Frew, was one of the fourteen unfortunate persons who were killed in the terrible wreck on the U.P. just east of Granger Wyoming, at 9 o’clock, Saturday morning.  His body was badly crushed and mangled and his face disfigured.   His neck and back were broken.  After being extricated from the debris, the remains were laid out where the sun shone on them all day while other bodies were being taken out from under the wreck.  He was sitting in a chair car when the collision took place and it is thought he was thrown to the farther end of the car.
 The remains reached Ogden Monday evening and were taken to Hooper where the funeral services were held Tuesday at 1:30 p.m.  under the auspices of the A. O. U. W.
 Mr. Frew was forty-four years old. He was born in Franklin, Idaho, being the second child born in that town.  He spent most of his life, however, in Hooper.
Not quite two years ago, he moved to Syracuse, where he was making himself a fine home.  He was also engaged in the sheep business and was on his way home from Chicago where he had been to market some of them when he met with his sad fate.  He had also worked at the Syracuse and Roy Canning factories, being a mechanical engineer.  He was well liked and highly respected.    He leaves a wife and seven children.

Joseph Alexander Frew was born 10 July, 1860 in Franklin Idaho to Jane and John Frew.  Jane was born in Ireland and John was born in Scotland.   
John had died just a few months before Josephs accident.  In February of 1904. Joseph’s mother Jane had passed away when Joseph was only 12.
Joseph married Mary Ann Smith 11 February 1885 in Hooper Ut where his parents lived until their deaths.
Joseph’s wife Mary Ann died in at 68 years old in may of 1932

John C. Van Why
Ogden Standard 1904-05-07
In a collision in railroad yards between a switch engine and passenger coach
Dr. Tavner of Salt Lake is injured.  Engine is completely demolished.
In a wreck in the railroad yards at 7:0’clock last evening, John C. Van Why, an engineer for the Southern Pacific company, met with a frightful death by being crushed and scalded.  The accident happened on the Southern Pacific crossing of the Oregon Short Line track.
A car load of passengers also had a narrow escape from serious injuries.  Dr. Tavner of Salt Lake was injured about the small of the back.  The cause of the accident is probably due to the fact that engineer Van Why did not see the emphatic stop signals given to him.  The engine, No. 1036 Southern Pacific which he was running was struck by a passenger coach loaded with passengers and completely overturning the engine, crushing him between the tender and the boiler head where he was scalded to death by the breaking of a steam pipe, In the presence of about fifty people who were unable to go to his rescue on account of the great volume of steam.
The story of the accident is as follows; Union Pacific switch engine No. 1101 in charge of foreman Boyle, was pushing a number of passenger coaches over the right leg of the “y” preparatory to making up Union Pacific Train No. 4 east.  The cars were taken from Oregon Short Line train No. 11 from the north.  Engine 1036 was on her way to the U. P round house to have her fires cleaned before going to work for the night.  Switchman M. L. Hailey was riding on the front foot board of the engine for the purpose of opening any switches that might be closed against them, and seeing the oncoming train and realizing the danger began giving Van Why signals to stop shouting at the top of his voice but in vain.  Stepping off the footboard he again shouted to Van Why “for God’s sake get back”  The engine ran by him but a few feet when he heard Van Why reverse it but it was too late, for the engine was on the crossing square in the way of the oncoming train and the crash came, knocking the engine over on its side several feet to the west of the track.  Fireman Daily of the 1036 noticed the predicament and jumped in time to escape injury.
The scene that followed was one that can hardly be described, the screeching of the escaping steam from the demolished engine preventing any one from hearing the agonizing screams of the engineer who was pinned tightly in the ruins and no one dared attempt to save him.  General Yardmaster cunningham, Switcheman Satchell, Baxter and Hailey together with several others displayed great courage in trying to rescue the unfortunate man.  After the service of another engine were used in pulling away the tender and cab of the ill-fated engine, the body of the deadman was reached and removed to the yard office and later taken to Richey’s undertaking parlors.
The several employees and eye witnesses of the affair gave very graphic
accounts, Switchman Hailey giving the following statement:
I was following engine 1036.  Had orders to take her to U. P. round house to have her fire cleaned.  We were in S. P. Yard.  On approaching O. S. L. crossing saw No. 11’s connection backing down the right leg of the “Y”.  Was on the front end of our engine and gave the engineer a signal to stop, but for some cause he did not and ran over the crossing.  I got off and told him to back up and get out of the way of the other drew.  He had just reversed the engine and started her back when she was struck by the coaches and turned over, killing Van Why.
Switchman Satchell’s account of the affair is as follows;
“When we first started to work Van Why said ‘We will have to clean our fire the first thing’ I said all right go ahead.”  I told Hailey to take him around and get his fire cleaned and that is all I know about it.”
Switchman Baxter stated as follows:  “When we started to work I heard the engineer tell Foreman satchell that he wanted his fire cleaned and was told to go and have it done.  Switchman Satchell got on the front foot-board to take him in and I went down into the U. P. years with Satchell.  We went about twenty-five car lengths when we heard the crash and both went back as fast as possible and found Van Why caught between the cab and the boiler head.”
Fireman Dailey, who jumped, left the scene a few minutes after the accident  and his statement could not be procured.
In Union Pacific chair car No. 506 which struck the engine, the wildest confusion reigned, as it was thought that the car would turn over on its side.  However the car was turned partly over and remained in that position.  As soon as the car struck the engine the passengers all began rushing for the doors, and the sound of the escaping steam seemed to make them frantic.  Dr. Tavenor of Salt Lake received internal injuries about the small of the back.  The other passengers, outside of a good shaking up and a few slight bruises were not injured.
Everything possible was done by the train crews for the excited passengers.  Hurry up calls were sent in for physicians and surgeons and the ambulance, but it was found there was no need of them, for as soon as the excitement passed off it was found that there was only one case, that being Dr. Tavenore, who required attention.
The horror was witnessed by a large number of people who were at the Union Depot, and with in ten minutes after the collision occurred, several hundred people were upon the ground and later in the evening it required a detail of eight police officers to keep the crowd back so that the large steam wrecking crane, with a large force of men, could clear the track.
 Municipal Judge Howell together with the officers, visited the scene and an inquest  was ordered. The following jurors were summoned by Deputy Sheriff Seabring who was upon the ground:
L. H. Becraft, Tom Matthews and Robert Wilson.  The jurors viewed the remains of Engineer Van Why.
 John C. Van Why was about forty years of age and leaves a wife and a small family
residing at 2273 Adams Avenue.  He has been in the employ of the Southern Pacific Company for about four years.
 Dr. Tavenor’s injuries were considered such as to necessitate his being removed to the hospital.
Judge Howell states the inquest will take place either Monday or Tuesday probably on the latter date.( )

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Friday, February 7, 2014

Lost Their Heads

Deseret Evening News, 1897-06-17

 While returning from a firemen's picnic at Mesa City, Arizona on Monday, Miguel Barba met death in a horrible manner.  While standing on the platform of the moving train he leaned out and his head struck a telegraph pole, mangling him in such a manner that he died within an hour.

Box Elder News, 1903-05-21

Last Sunday evening May 15th Mr. John W. Harding of Willard a young man of 21 years of age was fatally injured near the O.S.L. depot.
   He in company with two or three other young men, were standing near the track, when a freight train came by Mr. Harding was struck in the back of the head, by a piece of timber hanging from one of the cars which fractured the bone back of  the ear rendering him unconscious in which condition he remained up to the time of his death which occurred Wednesday at 1 O'clock p.m.
  Mr. Harding is the son of Margret Harding and hi home has always been in Willard, where he leaves many relatives and friends to mourn his sad and untimely death.
  County attorney Perry decided an inquest was not necessary.

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Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Warning content may be unsuitable for some readers. "Pieces Of Me"

Deseret Evening News, 1897-09-09

  Ed Gast, a breakeman at Kern City Cal. fell under a moving train Monday evening while coupling cars and was instantly killed.  The train cut the body into several pieces.  It is believed Gast caught his foot in a frog or stumbled. 

Definition:  FROG 
A frog is where the track switches to another track for a train to go a different direction or to get on a side track.  The tracks resemble frogs legs.  Pictures and how a frog switch works can be found on wikipedia

Deseret Evening News, 1890-10-24 

A shocking accident resulting in the death of James Stewart by falling between two cars, occurred late Wednesday night at Morgan.
  The unfortunate man was somewhat addicted to the use of intoxicating liquors, and when ever he could raise the necessary funds was generally under its influence.
  Late Wednesday night as the downward bound Union Pacific freight train, which is due in Ogden some time after 11 o'clock pulled into Morgan a small settlement in Weber Canyon, Stewart came up to the cars, and being under the influence of liquor made several unsuccessful attempts to board them.  As the train came to a standstill he at last succeeded in climbing between two cars and sat perched there.
  After remaining in the yard some time the conductor gave the starting signal and the engineer opened the throttle.  The train started forward with a sudden lurch and Stewart toppled and fell fairly in front of the wheels of the then rapidly moving cars.  The remainder of the train passed over his body completely severing it through the abdomen.
  The sight as the yard men gathered around the remains, was ghastly in the extreme; there the body lay before them in two pieces.  The fragments were gathered up and an inquest was held.
  The Jurors fully exonerated the railroad company and gave as their verdict that deceased came to his death by accidentally falling between the cars.  The corpse was buried yesterday afternoon at Morgan
  Steward leave no family, never having been married. 

Saturday, February 1, 2014

Weber County Poor Farm and Infirmary.

Doing research for my book "Death At The Station" Ogden's Union Station.  I came across an article that caught my interest.  Enough to take a break from writing the book to research the topic.  The Weber County Poor Farm.  A place I didn't know ever existed.  Basically it started out a big garden and orchard to grow food for the poor.  Sam Fowler sold 80 acres to the county of Weber to establish this poor farm.

Ogden Standard Examiner, 06-03-1888
     Next Monday the county court will meet in regular session. . . One probable feature of the proceedings will be the presentation of plans for buildings on the poor farm by Architect W.W. Fife.  The buildings at present on the farm are wholly unsuitable and inadequate and must be replaced.  The assesment roll will also be presented and the tax levied.  There will be an additional tax this year on account of the tax levied for the provision for the poor. 

At this time Judge Shurtliff was out of town Selctman  Ammon Green took over the Judge duties.  Mr. Green was ill and could not leave his bed, therefore the meeting was held at Mr. Greens home in West Weber.

Small note:  Ammon Green was my Great, Great-Grandfather

 In 1889 They built a building for the poor to live in, basically a homeless shelter but this one supported itself by growing their own food, using what they needed and selling the rest. In 1897 There was a murder suicide in Ogden at the Union Station.  No relatives came to claim the gentlemen's body that committed the murder suicide.   So it was left to the county to take care of his remains.   The Ogden Standard Examiner printed an article stating that he couldn't be buried in the city cemetery.

1897-04-30 Ogden Standard
Murderer John Ross, who killed his mistress, Glenna Carter alias Mamie Evans at the depot Saturday evening and then turned the weapon with fatal effect upon himself, will be buried today at the county poor farm. A city ordinance on the duties of city sexton, page 305, Revised Ordinances of Ogden City, provides that “there shall not be interred within the limits of any cemetery in this city the body of any person known to the law as a murderer,” and as Ross had a double  claim to that opprobrious title, his remains can not be laid to rest in a cemetery within the city.  The county has the responsibility of burying the pauper dead, and as Ross had neither funds nor valuables, his body will be buried at the poor farm.
A letter from the aunt of the dead man,  Tillie Taggart of Hamilton, Ohio, was received by Justice Ternes yesterday which stated that “the relatives had no money with which to pay funeral expenses.”  This leaves the county no alternative but to dispose of the body in the manner indicated above.  ()

Ogden Standard 1897-04-30  Murder Suicide

So Weber County Buried him at the Weber County Poor Farm, no headstone, no burial record, no service. Just dug a hole 6ft down and put him in. The news paper article does say he was embalmed but doesn't say any thing about a casket or a wood box or any thing like that.


This is a partial list of those buried at the poor farm, but it doesn't include the name of John Ross the man who murdered his lover and then killed himself.  Apparently no one is sure how many bodies were buried there, between 20 and 30 is what I found.  In 1980 a plaque was created in hopes of preserving the cemetery and remembering those who were buried there.  

What stands there now?  The plaque is just west of the Roy City Public Works building
 5460 S 2700 W Roy.

The actual cemetery is located with in a mile of the plaque.  The http://www.usgennet.org/usa/ut/county/weber/cemetery/poorfarm/  
states the plaque was moved and the contractor built on the ground not moving the bodies.  But as of Feb. 1, 2014 nothing is built there, it is a big open field surrounded by trees. 
These questions come to my mind: who owns the property, did they know about the bodies when the property was purchased and what is in store for these forgotten souls. Watch for more posts about this topic.